i was impressed by diana, daniel, joyce lewis, luisa mendoza. unfortunately i do not get to speak with -- a land-use attorney. typically we ask that candidates come before us but ms. crisp made a particular outreach to our office knowing that she could not be here today and i appreciate that. with the permanent alternate seats, i would like to ask the candidates if you have a preference between permanent and temporary so that we don't put you on places where you might have a slight not preference for. with joyce it was clearly an alternate seat.